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P&ID Basics: Avoid Common Mistakes in Reading a Piping & Instrumentation Diagram (Part 2)
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This series of videos will help you significantly in getting better at reading as well as DESIGNING P&IDs.
In the previous episode (Part 1), we discussed the P&ID symbols present in ISA5.1 and commenced a practical example of a Piping and Instrumentation Diagram.
I showed you how to demonstrate the electric motor winding temperature sensors and their transducers in the P&ID. We’re not done with this example, yet!
Watch or Read Part 1 over at ▶ upmation.com/piping-and-instrumentation-diagram/
In this video, we will continue and complete the example we have started in Part 1.
As the Ball Mill electric motor is controlled by a Variable Speed Drive or VSD, I decided to connect its temperature transducers directly to the VSD. Therefore, I will do so in the P&ID and first consider the VSD and then connect the transducers to that.
But I also want to send the signals from the motor's transducers to a PLC card to show the real-time temperature of the motor to the operators in a monitoring system or let’s say Human-Machine Interface. I will send them via the network between the VSD and PLC.
In this way, through the Human Machine Interface or HMI, if the operator opens the related pages for the Ball Mill motor, he/she should observe the motor winding temperature indicators.
Inside the P&ID, I use a “circle-in-square” symbol to indicate that the operator will see those temperatures on his/her computer in real-time. In other words, each of these symbols in our P&ID equals one of these temperatures in the HMI.
You should already know that the dashed lines are used for electric signals or electrical connections. But to show the communication links or a network bus between the devices and HMI objects, we should use a dashed and dotted line type.
The VFD sends us some other pieces of data such as:
- Is it turned on or off?
- Is there a fault with the VSD?
- Is it running the motor at the moment?
- What is the motor’s real-time speed?
But the VSD also ‘receives’ some signals and data from the control system. Like the Start and Stop commands. Although the VSDs are provided with physical Start and Stop Pushbuttons, we might want to command the motor to start or stop remotely via the HMI as well.
Shared Display means that we have shared some data with the operator in the HMI, and Shared Control means we have shared some controls there in the HMI.
There is a very important point here:
Some instructors might tell you that if your automation system is based on Decentralized Control System or DCS you should use the “circle-in-square” symbol for a Shared Control or Shared Display object or both of them.
And if your control system is PLC based, then you have to use a “diamond-in-square” symbol. Even though this idea was true for older versions of P&IDs that were designed according to previous versions of the ISA document, it is not correct anymore.
As stated on pages 10 and 11 of the ISA documents this definition is no longer accurate. The following is exactly copied from the ANSI/ISA-5.1-2009:
The commonly assumed meanings of ‘circle-in-square’ as a distributed control system (DCS) functions and of ‘diamond-in-square’ as programmable logic controller (PLC) function are no longer accurate because they no longer reflect the currently acceptable meanings.
DCSs and PLCs can both perform continuous and binary control functions. The same functions are performed by personal computers (PC) and by fieldbus and device-bus devices.
Both ‘circle-in-square’ and ‘diamond-in-square’ symbols are classified as ‘shared display, shared control.’
‘Circle-in-square’ will depict either:
(a) primary control system choice or
(b) a basic process control system (BPCS).
‘Diamond-in-square’ will depict either:
(a) an alternate control system choice or
(b) a safety instrumented system (SIS).
Users who continue to use the symbols as in the past should change to the revised meanings as soon as possible.
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  • @OluwaseunAlade1986
    @OluwaseunAlade1986 2 дні тому

    Very educative and informative. Thanks.

  • @Arg-hs6vf
    @Arg-hs6vf 4 дні тому

    아주 좋은 정보 배우고 갑니다 감사합니다

  • @ndwsolutions6473
    @ndwsolutions6473 4 дні тому

    This content is a life saver, thank you sir 🙏🏽

  • @mitchimal
    @mitchimal 6 днів тому

    What about DC loads? Why can't they be used?

  • @mecca7aa
    @mecca7aa 7 днів тому

    Great job!

  • @MutahirRasool
    @MutahirRasool 8 днів тому

    Wonderful!

  • @nehulmarco5620
    @nehulmarco5620 8 днів тому

    my friend circuit diagram explanation is very good. my friend can you explain marine main switch board circuit diagram just like this. marine switch board maker is terasaki japan.

  • @nehulmarco5620
    @nehulmarco5620 8 днів тому

    my friend your all videos is very good. my friend can you explain marine main switch board circuit diagram with synchronization circuit diagram

  • @nehulmarco5620
    @nehulmarco5620 8 днів тому

    Awesome circuit diagram explanation.

  • @dzcomique9447
    @dzcomique9447 10 днів тому

    do u advise to learn PFD then P&IDs to make more easier to learn ?or it doesn't matter

  • @rahmani_hadi
    @rahmani_hadi 14 днів тому

    Excellent

  • @MechAnonymous
    @MechAnonymous 14 днів тому

    thanks yi

  • @mussahussein6392
    @mussahussein6392 14 днів тому

    How can I learn to make the control panel as you have done

  • @anelemngini4668
    @anelemngini4668 16 днів тому

    It is made simple and straight forward, made me eager to learn more and it is process control in simple explanation

  • @MohanSundaram-fw7nz
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    ❤❤❤ Thanks a lot… Great quality content and is easier to grasp….

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    this vid is absolutely amazing, i never comment on videos but this deserves one. wonderful.

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    @user-lm9ii2qt6y 20 днів тому

    very good

  • @Kumar_Bhartiya
    @Kumar_Bhartiya 22 дні тому

    1:36

  • @KarlBolma
    @KarlBolma 23 дні тому

    Good tips mate I'm watching from Papua new guinea

  • @nikiniki3060
    @nikiniki3060 24 дні тому

    It was really helpful, thank you!

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    @drumtwo4seven 26 днів тому

    CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT HE'S SAYING JIBBERISH

  • @krzysztofk5277
    @krzysztofk5277 27 днів тому

    Thank you so so much for this animation.

  • @cubeaccerman6974
    @cubeaccerman6974 Місяць тому

    There is a mistake of connection PLC power on page 30

  • @mohammednasser70
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  • @kerayz4596
    @kerayz4596 Місяць тому

    Thank you so much for such a clear explanation

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    @adelelwarchane8659 Місяць тому

    Thanks

  • @bard_x86
    @bard_x86 Місяць тому

    Great tutorial! But I have a question: how did you animate the flow of current?

  • @surendrakverma555
    @surendrakverma555 Місяць тому

    Very good

  • @s001b
    @s001b Місяць тому

    Please make a video about safety switch

  • @s001b
    @s001b Місяць тому

    Please never stop uploading You are helping me alot

  • @motive1edukasi
    @motive1edukasi Місяць тому

    Hello sir, what software make this drawing ?

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    @user-qp4jv7hk5q Місяць тому

    ❤❤❤❤

  • @JonasDeman
    @JonasDeman Місяць тому

    hello, in this drawing at 1:49 why is the 24V connected to the PE and the PE connected to the L+? your tags you edited on the video seem correct but the drawing itself is different.

  • @MitchfordToracks
    @MitchfordToracks Місяць тому

    Can you draw a wiring diagram for the alarm system for the computer room. Things to include, Main Control Panel Keypad 1x Door Contacts 2x Motion Detector's 3x Glass Breaker Detectors 2x Smoke Detector's 2 Siren 1x Transformer

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    @md.shakibulislam3228 Місяць тому

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    @markoradosavljevic7517 Місяць тому

    Beautiful!

  • @HopeOnyenuru
    @HopeOnyenuru Місяць тому

    By far this is one of the best video I have watched and is well simplify. Kudus to the team. You all deserve an OSCAR.

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    @kgobokoanemahlatselentsoan6920 Місяць тому

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  • @truongquocnguyen1461
    @truongquocnguyen1461 Місяць тому

    I need a full tutorial to make a test project

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    @llvllx Місяць тому

    Thanks!

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    @ladislavkovac9675 Місяць тому

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  • @Krpasava
    @Krpasava Місяць тому

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  • @jsmith7310
    @jsmith7310 Місяць тому

    This all comes under the heading " Fail Safe"

  • @MaryadiElectricals
    @MaryadiElectricals Місяць тому

  • @initiallearnwithme
    @initiallearnwithme Місяць тому

    Clear explanation

  • @universalmania160
    @universalmania160 2 місяці тому

    Thank you so much sir for beautiful explanation

  • @BSS44r
    @BSS44r 2 місяці тому

    Spotted an error at 2:07 in the schematic, the 24V L+ and PE are mixed for the incoming S7-300. Otherwise, great tutorial!

  • @MohammedKhaleel-ln9dq
    @MohammedKhaleel-ln9dq 2 місяці тому

    Man, you are great, the best explanation ever.

  • @mustafacakr3121
    @mustafacakr3121 2 місяці тому

    Is it possible you can share this or any similar other electrical project with me?